Man charged with murder in harbor drowning


John J. Haley


Police charged a 31-year-old Chicago man with first-degree murder today in the death of a fisherman who drowned in Montrose Harbor.

A judge set bail at $1.5 million.

John J. Haley, of Logan Square, admitted to pushing 62-year-old Du Doan into the water, police said. Doan, who could not swim, drowned.

At 5:30 a.m. on Saturday, Haley was at Montrose Harbor with five others when he told his friends that he was going to push someone in the water, said prosecutor Maria McCarthy.

His friends tried to hold him back, said McCarthy, but Haley broke free and pushed Doan into the harbor in what McCarthy called a random act of violence. Emergency medical personnel pronounced Doan dead after pulling him from the water.

Later Haley was "laughing and bragging" about the incident, said McCarthy, citing statements from Haley's friends.

Marc Gottreich, Haley's lawyer, said those statements were "self-serving at best." Haley had no intention of hurting Doan, said Gottreich, who stopped short of calling the incident an accident.

"He turned himself in," said Gottreich.

Haley first approached Channel 2 News, who escorted him to a police station after conducting an interview.

This is the second time Haley has pushed someone into the waters of Lake Michigan this summer, prosecutors said.

Earlier this summer, Haley approached a 57-year-old fisherman and asked for a light, then hit the man in the head and pushed him into the lake, McCarthy said. That man was able to swim to safety.

Haley was convicted of felony cocaine possession in 2001, according to court records.

He "poses a real danger to the community," said McCarthy. "The defendant, without any warning, pushed them into the lake. For Mr. Duon, it was a death sentence."

Both victims were of Asian descent, though prosecutors declined to label either incident a hate crime.

Discuss

GINA, 09-05-2007

they didn't say anything about his rape charges??

HANG HIM, 09-05-2007

Or about the fact that he is the leader of the local violent-sexist-racist-homophobic skinhead gang "Chicago Mafia Skinheads;" the same group responsible for burning a homeless black man to death? Interesting. It was statutory rape too, wasn't it? Something about tattooing "STD" on a 14 year old girls ass?

GEOFF DOUGHERTY (THE EDITOR), 09-06-2007

We checked the defendant's Cook County criminal record. If you guys have additional info you'd like to share, definitely e-mail the reporter, Geoff Wallin. It's wallin (at) chitowndailynews (dot) org

CHI TOWN SMART PUNK, 09-07-2007

this dude has raped three different people i know along with his lackys in the cms and the 77s. i think its about time we as a scene (because every person in chicago knows who these people are) start turning them in. they beat people up for nothing rape peoples girlfriends and steal and destroy. i say let them die

ALF, 09-07-2007

This is to chi town smart punk if he has raped three people you know. Why dident they make a police report and file charges...Stop makeing things up and trying to kick someone when there are down.Also i would like to see you call some of those guys lackys to there face dont think so.

FED UP, 09-08-2007

He has spent years jumping people, anyone remember that yuppie couple from 950? I believe he broke the girls jaw. John is violent for the sake of being violent he thinks it makes him cool. I feel truely sorry for anyone defending him, you either just met him or your brain dead. the truth hurts and society is better with him in prison.

DUMB ASS SOB'S, 09-08-2007

This guy get his kicks picking on people who can defend themselves. Elderly, women, etc. Now his idiotic actions KILLED a man, ended a life and can never be undone and you freaks are saying leave him alone because he's down? WTF, I'd like to have you guys locked up with him.

WHITE SUPREMACY, 09-08-2007

John J. Haley, 31 of Logan Square needs to pay with his life. Life for a life. It doesn't get any more fair than that plain and simple. Mistake or not, needs to be paid in full. It's the only way to prevent them from happening in the first place. And in this case it killed an eldery Asian man who was got up one morning to enjoy some fishing leisure.

DARIA, 09-09-2007

where are you all getting your info about his past? i'd be willing to bet it's rumors.

I KNOW WHO I AM, 09-10-2007

Seeing how easy it is for you to decide someone’s fate only knowing a tenth of this so called evidence I thank Johnny’s lucky stars that none of you will be called for jury duty. I am so glad to see that justice is blind. Yes what happen was a horrible tragic mistake/accident that deserves punishment this was man-slaugter at best murder 2, but legally the system is already failing him with not charging fellow friends as associates in such an act it just goes to show you how people cover there own asses in events that can be life altering case in point his supposed friends said Johnny went running to the car and stated ha-ha I just pushed him in lets get out of here. Law states if you know of a crime that just has occupied and did nothing to stop or help you my friend are an accessory to such crime. As for the belittling of him how sad it is that you never got to know him he is a hard working, sweet friend that because he isn't a shamed of his beliefs and loves his art work (tattoos) you all have shamed him I now truly know how people perceive others. The funny thing is Johnny was liked and loved by many from the lil rich white girls that found his tattoos soo hot to the chelse cut females with tattoos from head to toe. Guys wanted to be him skinny and dressed in his tight jeans and Fred Perry sweaters and 12 hole maroon doc's. And others hated him because they knew deep down inside the never could they just couldn't. He needs prayers not verbal lashing from people if you’re so quick to talk about him like this maybe you should figure out exactly what a racist person is.

CHI TOWN BULLIED, 09-10-2007

i turned in a list of names and crimes that all of the 77s and cms have been involved in as far as my knowlege, because i know these poeple and have been abused by these people and they will seek me out for turning this studd in i cant ask people to give me any more accounts of his actions, however if you honestly do have information about him that has been witnessed by you not rumored id advise you to tell it, this is our chance to make sure he never gets out to do it again

CHI TOWN BULLIED, 09-10-2007

Seeing how easy it is for you to decide someone’s fate only knowing a tenth of this so called evidence I thank Johnny’s lucky stars that none of you will be called for jury duty. I am so glad to see that justice is blind. Yes what happen was a horrible tragic mistake/accident that deserves punishment this was man-slaugter at best murder 2, but legally the system is already failing him with not charging fellow friends as associates in such an act it just goes to show you how people cover there own asses in events that can be life altering case in point his supposed friends said Johnny went running to the car and stated ha-ha I just pushed him in lets get out of here. Law states if you know of a crime that just has occupied and did nothing to stop or help you my friend are an accessory to such crime. As for the belittling of him how sad it is that you never got to know him he is a hard working, sweet friend that because he isn't a shamed of his beliefs and loves his art work (tattoos) you all have shamed him I now truly know how people perceive others. The funny thing is Johnny was liked and loved by many from the lil rich white girls that found his tattoos soo hot to the chelse cut females with tattoos from head to toe. Guys wanted to be him skinny and dressed in his tight jeans and Fred Perry sweaters and 12 hole maroon doc's. And others hated him because they knew deep down inside the never could they just couldn't. He needs prayers not verbal lashing from people if you’re so quick to talk about him like this maybe you should figure out exactly what a racist person is.



i hope when he gets out your the next one he rapes and i hope the both of you die sick and slowly of aids

TO: "I KNOW WHO I AM", 09-10-2007

Your in love with a sociopath. I suggest you seek help and counseling after being abused yourself by him. Idolizing someone for their tatooes and clothes and artwork is very shallow.Are you one of the "rich girls" you spoke of? In actual real life he was a hate monger, and someone that needed to be locked up for the safety of the city and surrounding areas.



I do feel very badly about our legal system. He should have served worse sentences dating back to ten years ago. I am confident that after this awful murder more people will come forward and lock all of them up.


SHREWD, 09-11-2007

regards to all the families.

77 MEMBERS-ONLY IDIOTS CLUB - NO ADULTS ALLOWED!, 09-11-2007

One less mean-spirited, sociopathic piece of garbage out on the street, and one step closer to a better world. Good. Enjoy jail.





Gangs are dumb. Haven't these 'tards ever seen Westside Story? Anyone needing to surround themself with a thuggish clique to gain their confidence never really had any to begin with. Sounds like this guy would've made a great member of the CPD.

., 09-15-2007

grow up all of you is this what you spend your time doing gossiping spreading rumors and putting girls who have nothing to do with this man up here in slanderous. GET A LIFE if you cared about this man who drowned youd be doing something about it not bad mouthing kids you dont know on the internet.

EVOO, 09-21-2007

He's not going on trial for any personal issues you may have with him or people associated with him. Try to keep that in mind, and remember that it's important to U.S. citizen's rights that people's punishments fit the crime when being charged. His crime is pushing someone into a lake who unfortunatly could not swim. The jury will decide if this was an accident or not, and that's how it works. He's not being charged for anything else, not even beating up your friends. It's probably best if you just get over it because it has nothing to do with this case.



Also,I really doubt so many girls would have been raped without anybody saying anything. The girls, their families, friends, etc. Either way, you can't go by hearsay, it's worthless in court and not to mention pathetic.

TOM PETKE, 09-23-2007

He was cool I used to skateboard with him in the early 90's. Why a cool dude growing up turns into this mess is beyond me

YOU'RE AN IDIOT...., 09-26-2007

For the record, Long Overdue, I'm sure Johnny didn't declare SHARP out of "pride." He did it to keep the cops away from his boys in CMS. Anyone with even a hint of the insight of criminal mentality would have figured that one out.

IF ONLY THERE WAS A SUCH A THING AS "UNPROVOKED VOLUNTARY MA, 10-07-2007

It was extremely prudent of john to go on CBS and clear his name before he turned himself in by making it perfectly clear that his decision to push the Vietnamese gentleman off the dock was in NO WAY RACIALLY MOTIVATED, and Dwayne's passionate elucidation as to the equal application of their ethos.

HE WAS CARING AND CONSIDERATE, 10-07-2007

But I'll be damned if he didn't hate fishermen with a passion. He was fiercely protective of our aquatic neighbors. What a shame.

SS, 10-09-2007

Ive known Johnny 11 yrs. and he is very loyal to his friends!

OOOPS, 10-15-2007

is not sexist

NATASHA, 10-16-2007

I was friends with Johnny for years i met him back in '99 when i was 15.. And he was nothing but nice and protective of me...He was like the big brother i never had....On the other hand Over the years us haging out became seldom bcause of all the stupid crap he would do...I grew up and he was the same as when i met him back in '99.

It just wasnt the way it was when i was younger it wasnt fun anymore it was just sad....I ran into him last summer and the group he was with i swear was like 15 and 16 year olds....Im sorry but im 23 and i dont have anything much im common with 15 and 16 year olds....Its a shame he didnt grow up and all of this had to happen maybe this will be a wakeup call for him....Too bad it had to take somones life for it to happen...My heart goes out to both families.



He did the crime he needs to do the time!!

NEWSTRAVELS, 10-29-2007

Freedom for a month or so. Welcome back Johnny

NATASHA, 10-29-2007

Hey NewsTravels....If you read this...can you let me know what is going on with him...like is getting out and is he going to go back in...and aall that stuff...Thanks...I would appreciate it. :)

NEWSTRAVELS, 10-30-2007

October 25, 2007

FROM STNG WIRE REPORTS

A 31-year-old man accused of shoving a 62-year-old fisherman to his death in Lake Michigan on Sept. 1 pleaded not guilty Thursday.



John J. Haley pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder and aggravated battery during an arraignment Thursday before Cook County Criminal Judge John P. Kirby, according to Cook County State’s Attorney's office spokesman Andy Conklin.



Next court date Nov 26th Home for Thanksgiving...

GEOFF DOUGHERTY (THE EDITOR), 10-30-2007

These comments have been edited to remove obscene content. You're welcome to keep the thread going, but please stay away from the f-bomb, etc.

MEMPHIS, 11-12-2007

Met him about 5-6 years ago and since than he has been nothing but nice to me and well hey, im not white. He was very protective of me and my friends and nothing but a nice guy. Im not defending him in what happened cause in no means is it right, but is the kicking someone while they are down totally needed?

OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER, 11-19-2007

F**k this f**king moron. Hope he gets locked away for good in a federal "pound me in the ass" prison or better yet executed. Him & all the rest of his ignorant violent skinhead "crews" of immature, insecure little retards should be locked in a large box & tossed into Lake Michigan.

JOHNHALEYSUCKSASS, 11-20-2007

Hi, I'm John Haley. I'm a murderous moron & pedophile rapist. Please shoot me.

NATASHA, 11-24-2007

Hey can anyone tell me what is going on with the trial.....he was suppost to go in on friday...and i was wondering if anythin happened and if he has been fully charged yet....I cant finf one thing updated about this on the internet... Thanks!!

IDUNNO, 11-26-2007

"October 25, 2007

FROM STNG WIRE REPORTS

A 31-year-old man accused of shoving a 62-year-old fisherman to his death in Lake Michigan on Sept. 1 pleaded not guilty Thursday.



John J. Haley pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder and aggravated battery during an arraignment Thursday before Cook County Criminal Judge John P. Kirby, according to Cook County State’s Attorney's office spokesman Andy Conklin.



Next court date Nov 26th

HOME for Thanksgiving..."

?????????, 12-06-2007

Is John in jail for 15 years now? Need updates.

NATASHA, 12-06-2007

OMG!! This is the first i have heard in awhile! 15 years???? Where did you here that from?? I have been trying to find somthing on the internet but i cant find anything!!

WHEATON LIVES!, 12-08-2007

Met the guy, he seemed nice enough. He was not a bigot, he was also not PC. He didn't owe me any explanation but he told me strait up that it was an accident and he didn't look as though the fact that he ended a mans life was lost on him. He's going to jail for a long time and he killed an innocent person, get a life and get off the guys case you smug, ignorant pinheads.

NATASHA, 12-14-2007

Ok Jerk ass!! I am NOT smug and i am Not ignorant and You are the pinhead....I just want to know what exactly happened and how many years he is getting...i am concerned because unlike alot of the people on here i was friends with him for many years and i have a right to know....So if anyone knows ANYTHING please let me know Thanks!

STEVE, 12-17-2007

you people would never understand the life style that we live. just because we dont bow down to your laws just because we do what we want to. im not saying rape or murder is good but in the words of GG "WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD" stop being so damed sheltered and accept the fact that there are hundreds of million people in the world and there are poeple that will do things tha tyou dont like.. you people mean to tell me you have never hit someone? stolen something? done something out of anger or even done something then asked your self why you did that. and even if you can say no to anyof thos if you say you have never had a violent thought or criminal intention of anykind is a lie and you know it. so befor you go and judge other people try to drag one of your own skelltons out of the closet and thing about your life.



and befor i get called a supporter of him.. i am not a suporter OR a friend i dont even like the guy he has slamed me against a wall and told me he would "slit my damn throat" then pulled a knife out and tossed me to the side. i have been around the punk scene i know the majority of CMS and i know everyone past and present to date in the 77s but you people are so quick to judge you dont know the poeple i do. some of them are classic psychos that shouldent be on the streets.. some of them are nice poeple who would do anyhting for a friend.

everything is allways ended niceley with a quote

"I can't dislike you, but I will say this to you: you haven't got long before you are all going to kill yourselves, because you are all crazy. And you can project it back at me, but I am only what lives inside each and every one of you. "

A NORMAL PERSON, 12-18-2007

Tell that to the dead guys poor family, I'm sure they will find that comforting sitting around the christmas tree this year.

AN EX-FRIEND, 12-28-2007

His past doesn't matter, his tattoos doesn't matter, the fact that he's involved in CMS and 77's doesn't matter. John pushed the innocent man into the lake and whether or not he had intent to kill, HE STILL KILLED HIM. THE FACT THAT HE COULDN'T SWIM DOESN'T MATTER. My heart goes out to both the fisherman's family and John's family.



Lock him up and throw away the key.

JACK O'NEILL, 06-24-2008

I have personal seen John's criminal records

and there is nothing in there about rape.

I allways thought CMS and the 77s punks where two different groups.

never had a problem with CMS

But the 77 on the other hand

If I ever catch the one that did the damage to one of my car that was not even a week old his ass is mine

GINGER PARK, 09-22-2008

Wow, I haven't seen Johnny in about 10 years but this just blows for everyone involved. Its hard to believe someone who used to eat dinner with my family is now committing hate crimes against Asian Americans. I obviously feel terrible for the victim's family but also Johnny's brothers. He wasn't the most mature guy in the world but from what people are saying in the comments, it's hard to believe it's the same person. We were all stupid kids but this is too much.